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Saturday, October 17, 2015

Top Five Crazy Things That Christians Believe - #5 to #2

Well, I’m probably about to offend almost all of my friends with this post.  I have friends who are strong fundamental Christians and I have friends who consider anything related to religion or spirituality as going back to the dark ages and only useful for Monty Python skits.  I think I’m about to offend all…but, hey, here it goes…

Let’s talk about the crazy things that Christians believe.  I’m talking about Christians who would call themselves “Evangelical” and would generally fit into the category of “Fundamentalists”.  If you like to apply stereotypes, here are some characteristics that come quickly to mind.  Christians in this category are likely to support at least some limits to the broad category of “gay rights”.  They are likely to be, at the very least, uncomfortable with the concept of evolution and, in most cases, opposed to at least some of its tenets.  They probably oppose abortion.  I could go on, but this should suffice to define the group.

I think that if the average person were to be asked “What are the five craziest things that Evangelical Christians believe?”, the list would include things like “opposition to evolution”, “rejection of science”, “overly conservative moral views”, and so on.  But to me, that really misses the whole point.  That’s like saying that the craziest thing that Extraterrestrialists[1] believe is that aliens are green and have big eyes and skinny arms.  Isn’t that completely skipping over the major issue?  The major issue in that case is this:  do aliens exist at all?  Discussing the lack of bulkiness in the arms of aliens (if they have arms!) is total trivia unless the more important discussion, regarding the existence of aliens at all, has already taken place and has reached the conclusion that they do exist.  Until that first discussion is complete, discussing those other issues is a waste of time.

The point is, what happened during in the universe prior to recorded history is way down on the list of crazy things that Christians believe.  Personally, I would not put it in the top five, and probably not even in the top twenty.  Here are my top five things (ok, I only list #2 - #5 here – I’ll put the #1 craziest belief in a separate entry):

#5 – Jesus was born of Mary, who was a virgin.  Further, when Jesus grew up he performed the 500+ miracles recorded about him in the Christian Bible, and those were real miracles in the commonly accepted use of the term “miracle” (i.e. not magical tricks or convenient coincidences).

#4 – There is life after death, and there is a judgement after death with eternal consequences.

#3 - Jesus died and rose again after three days to a real, though unique, body.  He was really dead and didn’t just “swoon”, and he was really alive afterwards, not just an apparition.

#2 - Jesus claimed to be God and really was God, and his death provides a payment for the sins of the whole world, directly impacting the events that might transpire in crazy item #4.


There are libraries full of books on the four topics I have listed.  There are specific theological words for all of these topics, but I will not bring those up now.  The point is, these issues have been debated and discussed and codified and written about for a couple millennia.  But just because they have been around for a long time doesn’t diminish their importance.  These topics are still the pertinent issues for discussion.  They are still the foundation for Christian beliefs.  Everything else grows out of these issues.  To pick at outcomes of some of these beliefs is, in my opinion, pretty much a waste of time.  If the foundational issues are false, then the ideas built on those foundational issues don’t matter and never did.  If the foundational issues are true, then the ideas built on them follow naturally and there’s usually not much discussion required.

Let me give a simple example before I move on, in hopes that it will clarify the point.  Take the first aspect of crazy belief #5 – the virgin birth of Christ.  Can we agree that a virgin birth of a human being is surely more of a complete affront to scientific biological principles than the concept that some things might have been created, not evolved?  Seriously – Christians believe that Jesus stood outside of Lazarus’ tomb and called out to him after he had been dead for about three days, and Lazarus came up alive, was unwrapped from the grave cloths, and went back to being a normal, living human being.  Now that is crazy, and that’s just one part of item #5!

The point is, if the four items I listed above are false, there’s no reason to argue further.  In fact, even the Apostle Paul, clearly a staunch Christian, admitted this and went a bit further, saying that if Jesus didn’t rise from the dead then Christians “are to be pitied” because their whole set of beliefs would be based on a big falsehood.  However, if the four items I listed above are true, then their importance to every human being swamps the discussion regarding anything else.  For example, if there really is some kind of judgement with eternal consequences after you die, then you better get ready for that quickly and not waste time discussing anything else!

Why do we argue about creation vs evolution when there are much bigger issues to tackle?  The reason is simple, but does not invalidate my point.  The reason we argue about these kinds of side issues is because we cannot come to an agreement on the four issues I outlined above.  That split has happened long ago and has only widened over time.  Those discussions have been conducted long ago, without reaching a conclusion.  But that doesn’t invalidate my point:  it is still pointless to give up discussing those fundamental issues and argue over side issues.  That doesn’t solve anything and it is essentially arguing trivia and ignoring the real foundations.  It’s like trying to build a house on thin air because you couldn’t figure out how to build a foundation. 

To my Christian brothers and sisters I say: stop getting drawn into arguments about the side issues!  Or, worse yet, starting such arguments.  It is a waste of time.  If you want to argue your beliefs, argue the beliefs that your patriarchs grappled with, such as the four listed above.  There is a good reason that the early Church Fathers wrote about these things. You can’t accept or reject Christian beliefs based on issues such as the origin of the universe or abortion or gay rights.  If you are going to accept or reject Christian beliefs, it should be on the basis of the big issues above (and maybe a few others).

In light of this, I have no interest in discussing creation vs. evolution or similar topics.  Well, at least not until the four issues above have been addressed and we have all come to a conclusion regarding the truth or falseness of these foundational issues.  And…since a few millennia of discussion hasn’t resulted in a globally accepted conclusion, I don’t anticipate getting past those anytime soon!

OK – there will obviously be many more entries on this topic…including the #1 craziest thing that Christians believe.  Any guesses?



[1] Extraterrestrialists = those who believe in aliens among us. Yes, I made that word up, but no, I’m not proud of it.

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