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Sunday, July 19, 2020

1. Do you have to believe that there is a spiritual part of human beings (i.e. a nonmaterial soul/spirit) in order to be a Christian?

Linkage:  This is part of the study "Scriptural View of the Body, Soul and Spirit".  You should read that Introduction first.

 

Quick Answer:  Yes.

 

Key Scriptures:

             I Thes 5:23 “…your whole <pneuma> and <psuche> and <soma> be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” This seems to clearly establish that “we” are each composed of a body, soul and spirit and that each of those three entities has some distinction between them.

             Mt 16:17 "for <sarx> and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven..." Here <sarx> means the physical world and in particular physical humans.  I think this verse alone is sufficient to say that there is some form of communication between the spiritual, non-material realm; and the physical realm we are living in now.  Of course Jesus is a physical embodiment of that, but here Peter comes to understand something in his brain that clearly is not a result of physical inputs.

             II Cor 5:8 “…willing rather to be absent from the <soma>, and to be present with the Lord.”  Although the word <soma> does not have to refer "only" to the flesh, it certainly includes the flesh.  I don't see how to understand Paul's sentiment without having a view that a person is both flesh and soul-spirit [Note:  for a discussion of how and why I use the term "soul-spirit" or <psuche-pneuma>, see here].  We know that God is spirit [John 4:24].  Certainly to be present with the Lord is to be in the spiritual realm.  To be absent from the body is to be dead.  So, when we are dead, there is a spiritual part of us that exists and is with God.  Also note that Paul is referring to himself and showing that he can be absent from the body and still exist - he can be present somewhere else.  Thus a "person" must have more than just flesh.

             John 4:24 “God is <pneuma>…”

             Joh 6:63 "The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life."  You cannot believe in Jesus without believing in a spiritual world.  And you certainly can't understand His teachings without believing in a spiritual world.  In fact, a central tenet of Jesus' teaching is that the spiritual world is of primary importance.  When he tells people to "eat my <sarx>", He is forcing them to see the most material of all material things (i.e. <sarx>) in a spiritual way. 

             You need to believe in a spiritual realm to understand Gal 2:20.

             Heb 1:7  Angels are <pneuma>.  There are also evil <pneuma>.  I don't see how these beings can be understood in Scripture without a firm belief in a supernatural world that interacts with the natural world in some way.

             John 4:23 “…worship the Father in <pneuma> and in truth…”

 

Caveat:

             I think someone can become a Christian without knowing much of anything...but then they learn!  So, it may be that a new Christian hasn't even thought about the spiritual realm yet and has no opinion on it.  But any Christian, once they have considered the whole concept, must come away with the view that there is a spiritual realm.

             I strayed from my original question a bit.  My original question focuses on the human soul, but in many of the verses, I've looked at a broader view: the existence of the "spiritual realm" in general.  The "soul" or "spirit" or "soul-spirit" of human beings is, at least to some extent, a part of that spiritual realm.  The point here is to show that belief in a spiritual realm is fundamental to Christian belief, and that includes the idea that human beings have a "soul" that is non-material (ok, well, at the very least, the soul is not composed of the material substances currently known and recognized by science).

 

Related Scriptures and Thoughts:

             When the word <pneuma> is used, it would certainly seem to imply something that is not the flesh.  But I also take it to mean that it is something that is not physical either – or at least not a material thing or entity made of atoms.  The <pneuma> is not something you can sense – you can only see the outworkings of it in the physical world. 

             Also, you can't successfully live the Christian life without focusing on the spiritual component of your life over and above the material, fleshly component.  Rom 8:5  "Those who live according to the <sarx> have their minds <phroneo> set on what that <sarx> desires."  Living according to either the <sarx> or the <pneuma> is a mindset.  Making that moment by moment choice seems to be the central struggle of living the Christian life.  How do we decide that the spiritual is more important than the physical?  It seems that our <psuche-pneuma> is caught in the middle and being pulled in two directions:  our <sarx> is constantly dragging us toward the physical and the Holy Spirit is constantly encouraging us toward the spiritual.  I found it helpful to visualize that tug-of-war.  It is a daily challenge.

             Rom 8:7 "the sinful mind <sarx phronema> is hostile to God.  It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so."  That last phrase seems critical.  It is not possible to reform the <sarx>.  It is not possible to save the <sarx>.  The <sarx> must die.  (see also I Cor 5:5)  The only way of salvaging the person, any person, is through the salvation of the <psuche-pneuma>.  The <sarx> will not decide to stop being selfish.  It just won’t.

 

Discussion:

             I thought this question would be obvious from the beginning, and scripture does seem clear.  Still, it seemed important to establish this point first.  You can't have a fully materialistic view of the universe and claim to be a Christian.

             Christians struggle to focus on the spiritual over the material - it is not easy!  On a practical level, we can often act as if we only see and acknowledge the material world.  When Christians do that, they look ugly.

             The issue of whether a spiritual realm exists is a fundamental difference in "belief" between science and Christianity.  In fact, I would say it might be the fundamental difference.  Oddly, I don't hear much discussion about this.  Instead the arguments are about less fundamental differences.  Side issues, really [see here for elaboration of that point].  The important point to recognize is that this fundamental difference has to exist.  Science has to be grounded in a materialistic assumption and it ceases to be science if you ground it on the spiritual.  Further, as we have discussed in this entry, Christianity ceases to be Christianity if you ground it on the material.  The problem is that sometimes we mistake these a priori assumptions for a conclusion.  Science doesn't conclude that the universe is material only - it starts on that assumption.  Christianity (and many other religions) start with the assumption that there is a spiritual realm in addition to the material world.  Those are opposing assumptions.  It's not a point of disagreement, it's a difference in "initial conditions."  You can't really argue about the initial conditions - they just are what they are. 

             My interest is in understanding how to view the "brain-mind" problem.  It is fun to consider what the difference is between neurons firing in the brain and our thoughts, and even science hasn't figured out an answer.  But, given that science is confined to the material world, science is working hard to come up with an explanation of the "mind" that is based entirely on known material substances.  The point for the Christian scientist is this:  the idea of the soul as non-material is a non-negotiable part of their faith.  That's what I wanted to know in my study of this topic.  Science will never find the soul.  We just have to recognize that impasse and move on.


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